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		<title>By: saka84</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/03/19/update-related-groups-feature-test/comment-page-2/#comment-8825</link>
		<dc:creator>saka84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haa</description>
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		<title>By: Ellen R</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/03/19/update-related-groups-feature-test/comment-page-2/#comment-2636</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t help wondering if Yahoo&#039;s latest test has anything to do with the following news release. 

Also, can&#039;t help wondering if Yahoo and Google are joining forces to combat this Grouply thing, or if Grouply is the way for handling the combining of the two? 

Time will tell. 

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Yahoo_Fi...

Yahoo! Finally Says Yes To Google’s OpenSocial Platform 

&quot;Yahoo agreed to join rival Google’s OpenSocial platform, which aims at building an infrastructure for the social web, as Google described it. Through the OpenSocial, platform, developers will be able to create applications for social-networking sites. The platform was launched last November, and MySpace is already a member.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t help wondering if Yahoo&#8217;s latest test has anything to do with the following news release. </p>
<p>Also, can&#8217;t help wondering if Yahoo and Google are joining forces to combat this Grouply thing, or if Grouply is the way for handling the combining of the two? </p>
<p>Time will tell. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Yahoo_Fi.." rel="nofollow">http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Yahoo_Fi..</a>.</p>
<p>Yahoo! Finally Says Yes To Google’s OpenSocial Platform </p>
<p>&#8220;Yahoo agreed to join rival Google’s OpenSocial platform, which aims at building an infrastructure for the social web, as Google described it. Through the OpenSocial, platform, developers will be able to create applications for social-networking sites. The platform was launched last November, and MySpace is already a member.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jan B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an update from Jami - please read and comment at:

http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/03/25/related-groups-feature-test-results/#comment-2517</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an update from Jami &#8211; please read and comment at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/03/25/related-groups-feature-test-results/#comment-2517" rel="nofollow">http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/03/25/related-groups-feature-test-results/#comment-2517</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely hate this feature. I opted out of being listed in the directory
so I would not have to be bothered with this.  You are forcing it on my anyway.
I can&#039;t say I am too happy with Yahoo right now.  Hopefully you will listed
and know I am not the only one.  It seems everytime you &quot;improve&quot; you service
it causes more problems than before.  Why can&#039;t you just leave it alone.
You know, if it ain&#039;t broke, don&#039;t fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely hate this feature. I opted out of being listed in the directory<br />
so I would not have to be bothered with this.  You are forcing it on my anyway.<br />
I can&#8217;t say I am too happy with Yahoo right now.  Hopefully you will listed<br />
and know I am not the only one.  It seems everytime you &#8220;improve&#8221; you service<br />
it causes more problems than before.  Why can&#8217;t you just leave it alone.<br />
You know, if it ain&#8217;t broke, don&#8217;t fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RS makes a sound point.  I&#039;ve taken polls of members in my groups and over 95% are against this.  It&#039;s not just mods against it.  So let&#039;s see some statistics. 

It takes me very little time to communicate to you.  Why do we wait so long for any communication back?  The level of anger and frustration merely grows without communication.  The world doesn&#039;t go away, and one doesn&#039;t become invisible, when one puts one&#039;s head in the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RS makes a sound point.  I&#8217;ve taken polls of members in my groups and over 95% are against this.  It&#8217;s not just mods against it.  So let&#8217;s see some statistics. </p>
<p>It takes me very little time to communicate to you.  Why do we wait so long for any communication back?  The level of anger and frustration merely grows without communication.  The world doesn&#8217;t go away, and one doesn&#8217;t become invisible, when one puts one&#8217;s head in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/03/19/update-related-groups-feature-test/comment-page-2/#comment-2499</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how a list of related groups can be helpful for folks searching for more/other groups specific to their interests.  However, I&#039;m irked that my group is being invaded with these lists.  We have had certain groups listed that are contradictory to what my group is all about.  A list showing up as &#039;recommended&#039; on the pages of my group has certain implications that it is condoned by the group asdministrators.  Ludicrious!

Perhaps it would be better to present this information on the individuals&#039; My Groups page.  This way the service is rendered, but the security of individual groups is preserved.

There&#039;s just got to be a vbetter way.

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how a list of related groups can be helpful for folks searching for more/other groups specific to their interests.  However, I&#8217;m irked that my group is being invaded with these lists.  We have had certain groups listed that are contradictory to what my group is all about.  A list showing up as &#8216;recommended&#8217; on the pages of my group has certain implications that it is condoned by the group asdministrators.  Ludicrious!</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be better to present this information on the individuals&#8217; My Groups page.  This way the service is rendered, but the security of individual groups is preserved.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just got to be a vbetter way.</p>
<p>George</p>
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		<title>By: Nubia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nubia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it will be nice to have updates about these tests
we all wonder what you will decide

Nubia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it will be nice to have updates about these tests<br />
we all wonder what you will decide</p>
<p>Nubia</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work my own job, yet I find the time daily to catch up on what is happening on the comment boards and can even make the time for a short message.  You folks work at the place itself, and while I know you are reading, and not much can be said too frequently, a weekly update or regularly scheduled communication would be a good thing.  One thing I have learned is that in absence of information, people tend to assume the worst.  I&#039;ve also learned any sort of change can be difficult for people to adjust to.  Here&#039;s a situation where you made a change, without much communication.  So, surprise, double whammy on us--change (negative as far as I can tell for the mods), and minimal communication.  Not much of a wonder that we might might feel a little like mushrooms at this point.

So (poke poke):

Hows that data tracking going?  How many people who applied to join groups were rejected by the mods?  How many were kicked back out with in the week?  How many blindly joined a group cluttered with spam e-mails or that has had no activity in years?  What is the minimum number of members in common it takes to have your group become listed?  What&#039;s the ETA on that Opt out control?  How soon will this testing be stopped in favor of a better method?

These questions and more we would like to get answered please.  Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work my own job, yet I find the time daily to catch up on what is happening on the comment boards and can even make the time for a short message.  You folks work at the place itself, and while I know you are reading, and not much can be said too frequently, a weekly update or regularly scheduled communication would be a good thing.  One thing I have learned is that in absence of information, people tend to assume the worst.  I&#8217;ve also learned any sort of change can be difficult for people to adjust to.  Here&#8217;s a situation where you made a change, without much communication.  So, surprise, double whammy on us&#8211;change (negative as far as I can tell for the mods), and minimal communication.  Not much of a wonder that we might might feel a little like mushrooms at this point.</p>
<p>So (poke poke):</p>
<p>Hows that data tracking going?  How many people who applied to join groups were rejected by the mods?  How many were kicked back out with in the week?  How many blindly joined a group cluttered with spam e-mails or that has had no activity in years?  What is the minimum number of members in common it takes to have your group become listed?  What&#8217;s the ETA on that Opt out control?  How soon will this testing be stopped in favor of a better method?</p>
<p>These questions and more we would like to get answered please.  Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second time I am writing, with no response from Yahoo as to when the &quot;opt out feature&quot; will be available. I have completely redirected all group emails (and there are still hundreds) to an email list I created from Active Group Members. It&#039;ll be one week tomorrow since I allowed any posts, which thanks to Yahoo, have my biggest competitor&#039;s link smack in the middle of every post, to go out to my group. The Email List is actually working pretty well, Yahoo, and that is 261 members that haven&#039;t seen the Yahoo homepage in almost a week. Get the picture?  I&#039;ve haven&#039;t gotten one complaint, and in fact many group members have said they like it better.

What is lacking, with what I hope is a temporary fix until Yahoo&#039;s opt out button is available, is the fact that all of the posts look like they are coming from me. I&#039;ve solved that to a degree by putting the name of the sender in the subject line. It&#039;s not perfect, but it&#039;s keeping the group active while we all hold our breath waiting for Yahoo to release their promised &quot;opt out&quot; feature.

This entire &quot;related groups fiasco&quot; is even more outrageous when you think about the fact that on every homepage there is a &quot;directory&quot; link, which, when people click on takes them to the &quot;related&quot; directory which lists every group there is. So Yahoo&#039;s comments about &quot;helping people find related groups&quot; is just ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second time I am writing, with no response from Yahoo as to when the &#8220;opt out feature&#8221; will be available. I have completely redirected all group emails (and there are still hundreds) to an email list I created from Active Group Members. It&#8217;ll be one week tomorrow since I allowed any posts, which thanks to Yahoo, have my biggest competitor&#8217;s link smack in the middle of every post, to go out to my group. The Email List is actually working pretty well, Yahoo, and that is 261 members that haven&#8217;t seen the Yahoo homepage in almost a week. Get the picture?  I&#8217;ve haven&#8217;t gotten one complaint, and in fact many group members have said they like it better.</p>
<p>What is lacking, with what I hope is a temporary fix until Yahoo&#8217;s opt out button is available, is the fact that all of the posts look like they are coming from me. I&#8217;ve solved that to a degree by putting the name of the sender in the subject line. It&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s keeping the group active while we all hold our breath waiting for Yahoo to release their promised &#8220;opt out&#8221; feature.</p>
<p>This entire &#8220;related groups fiasco&#8221; is even more outrageous when you think about the fact that on every homepage there is a &#8220;directory&#8221; link, which, when people click on takes them to the &#8220;related&#8221; directory which lists every group there is. So Yahoo&#8217;s comments about &#8220;helping people find related groups&#8221; is just ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Dewitt Gimblet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dewitt Gimblet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonard, 

How are you?  It&#039;s been so long since we&#039;ve heard from you that I&#039;m concerned you may have come down with the flu or something.  Perhaps one of your minions could let us know where to send Get Well cards.  And, if it&#039;s not too much trouble, perhaps someone at Yahoo! Groups could respond to the concerns that have been voiced regarding this new &quot;feature.&quot;   &quot;Let&#039;s keep talking&quot; requires communication from both sides. 

deg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonard, </p>
<p>How are you?  It&#8217;s been so long since we&#8217;ve heard from you that I&#8217;m concerned you may have come down with the flu or something.  Perhaps one of your minions could let us know where to send Get Well cards.  And, if it&#8217;s not too much trouble, perhaps someone at Yahoo! Groups could respond to the concerns that have been voiced regarding this new &#8220;feature.&#8221;   &#8220;Let&#8217;s keep talking&#8221; requires communication from both sides. </p>
<p>deg</p>
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