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	<title>Comments on: Moderator Tip: Finding and Appointing a Co-Owner</title>
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		<title>By: Carol Link</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-10492</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the owner of several group&#039;s &amp; I have had co-owner&#039;s up &amp; either un sub me from my own group &amp; then change the name of my group &amp; I think that Yahoo should add an extra button to all Yahoo group&#039;s Even though we might think we Trust a person enough to make a person a co-owner 9 x&#039;s out of 10 this person may up &amp; kick the original owner out or change the original owner&#039;s status &amp; change the group name!
Co-Owner&#039;s Should not have the privilege of of ever changing a group&#039;s name or un sub the original owner or changing group files made by the Original Owner! We need 3 button&#039;s 1 for Owner then 1 for a co-owner where the owner decides on what privilege&#039;s to allow a co-owner to have co-owner should never have same privileges as The Original Owner then 1 button for a Moderator I myself have had 3 group closed on me from a co-owner just up &amp; taken upon her self to kick me out &amp; change my group name Please add the 3 button for a co-owner Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the owner of several group&#8217;s &amp; I have had co-owner&#8217;s up &amp; either un sub me from my own group &amp; then change the name of my group &amp; I think that Yahoo should add an extra button to all Yahoo group&#8217;s Even though we might think we Trust a person enough to make a person a co-owner 9 x&#8217;s out of 10 this person may up &amp; kick the original owner out or change the original owner&#8217;s status &amp; change the group name!<br />
Co-Owner&#8217;s Should not have the privilege of of ever changing a group&#8217;s name or un sub the original owner or changing group files made by the Original Owner! We need 3 button&#8217;s 1 for Owner then 1 for a co-owner where the owner decides on what privilege&#8217;s to allow a co-owner to have co-owner should never have same privileges as The Original Owner then 1 button for a Moderator I myself have had 3 group closed on me from a co-owner just up &amp; taken upon her self to kick me out &amp; change my group name Please add the 3 button for a co-owner Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: Brucemoko</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Brucemoko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends whether you&#039;re more interested in the group surviving, or staying in control yourself.  If you&#039;re more interested in maintaining control, having multiple IDs as owner is practical.  But if you want the group to survive, you need actual co-owners.  One (large, active, healthy) group I&#039;m a moderator of just had the owner suddenly die.  There is apparently no way to get a new owner appointed (Yahoo tech support merely &quot;Contact the owner&quot; but doesn&#039;t provide a Ouija board).  The group will slowly die now, despite having five active moderators and thousands of members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends whether you&#8217;re more interested in the group surviving, or staying in control yourself.  If you&#8217;re more interested in maintaining control, having multiple IDs as owner is practical.  But if you want the group to survive, you need actual co-owners.  One (large, active, healthy) group I&#8217;m a moderator of just had the owner suddenly die.  There is apparently no way to get a new owner appointed (Yahoo tech support merely &#8220;Contact the owner&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t provide a Ouija board).  The group will slowly die now, despite having five active moderators and thousands of members.</p>
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		<title>By: November</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>November</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same as with Kayellen&#039;s comments..what if the owner&#039;s account suddenly got deactivated/suspended, it there any way the moderators can take over as &quot;owners in the meantime&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same as with Kayellen&#8217;s comments..what if the owner&#8217;s account suddenly got deactivated/suspended, it there any way the moderators can take over as &#8220;owners in the meantime&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Durant</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Durant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I ask you something ? If so I use to be the owner of that yahoo group below . But my last yahoo email address got deleted . And now I can not run that yahoo group . My old yahoo email address was brian_durant2002@yahoo.com  but it got deleted . And I&#039;m not sure why . And my new email address is briandurant2002@yahoo.com . I was wondering can you please help me and make me the owner again of that yahoo group again please ?

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MichaelJacksondownloads3/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I ask you something ? If so I use to be the owner of that yahoo group below . But my last yahoo email address got deleted . And now I can not run that yahoo group . My old yahoo email address was <a href="mailto:brian_durant2002@yahoo.com">brian_durant2002@yahoo.com</a>  but it got deleted . And I&#8217;m not sure why . And my new email address is <a href="mailto:briandurant2002@yahoo.com">briandurant2002@yahoo.com</a> . I was wondering can you please help me and make me the owner again of that yahoo group again please ?</p>
<p><a href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MichaelJacksondownloads3/" rel="nofollow">http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MichaelJacksondownloads3/</a></p>
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		<title>By: basfito</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>basfito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really happy it seems if having the new friend.
And you too was like this?
I had information about people who wanted to search friend.More... http://bluecupid.blogspot.com/Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really happy it seems if having the new friend.<br />
And you too was like this?<br />
I had information about people who wanted to search friend.More&#8230; <a href="http://bluecupid.blogspot.com/Thanks" rel="nofollow">http://bluecupid.blogspot.com/Thanks</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there are many dangers in having co-owners, but also that they are necessary, if only for the point that was raised of what if you die suddenly? I do wish that Yahoo Groups had a policy that if a group has no active owner that they will help the group and turn ownership over to a moderator who cannot raise themself to that status. 

I am the owner of several PTA groups, and have been helping some school PTAs that have experienced hostile takeovers of their lists by people that were entrusted with ownership, or started the group for the PTA and then when their child moved onto another school, decided to keep the group for their own personal agenda, and not turn it over to the new leadership, or became suddenly anti-PTA and decided to turn the list into their won style of community forum, without changing the name of the list and leaving the pciture of the school on the group website!. For that reason, we are now suggesting that the PTAs have a signed form stating that the owner understands that the list belongs to the PTA, not the person, and will relinquish the list when they leave. Talk about trust issues! 

I too have more than one id registered for each list, and actually that is beneficial when direct adding members - if every group were under one id, I would only be able to add 10 people, period. With multiple ids, I can add 10 people per group, which is important during our busy time in the fall when we get a lot of new members joining with the start of the school year. 

Just my 2 cents worth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there are many dangers in having co-owners, but also that they are necessary, if only for the point that was raised of what if you die suddenly? I do wish that Yahoo Groups had a policy that if a group has no active owner that they will help the group and turn ownership over to a moderator who cannot raise themself to that status. </p>
<p>I am the owner of several PTA groups, and have been helping some school PTAs that have experienced hostile takeovers of their lists by people that were entrusted with ownership, or started the group for the PTA and then when their child moved onto another school, decided to keep the group for their own personal agenda, and not turn it over to the new leadership, or became suddenly anti-PTA and decided to turn the list into their won style of community forum, without changing the name of the list and leaving the pciture of the school on the group website!. For that reason, we are now suggesting that the PTAs have a signed form stating that the owner understands that the list belongs to the PTA, not the person, and will relinquish the list when they leave. Talk about trust issues! </p>
<p>I too have more than one id registered for each list, and actually that is beneficial when direct adding members &#8211; if every group were under one id, I would only be able to add 10 people, period. With multiple ids, I can add 10 people per group, which is important during our busy time in the fall when we get a lot of new members joining with the start of the school year. </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents worth!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard B</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except in cases where I&#039;ve worked together with someone to build a group, I will not make someone a co-owner since I don&#039;t necessarily want another to have all the privileges of an owner.  I have been content to make one other person a manager though.  It&#039;s worked out nicely so far.

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except in cases where I&#8217;ve worked together with someone to build a group, I will not make someone a co-owner since I don&#8217;t necessarily want another to have all the privileges of an owner.  I have been content to make one other person a manager though.  It&#8217;s worked out nicely so far.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: EZgoing</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>EZgoing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a bit of good information here.. I especially like the idea of double ID&#039;s for each owner/moderator.  In the group I was talking about in the above post, all but one of us had at least 2 ID&#039;s on file.

But, the one point that I see many of you missing is - what the heck are you going to do if you wind up in a car accident and are laid up for 6 months or a year?  How about the death of a child or spouse and you NEED an extended break?  Or worse yet, your hit by a bus and killed... Can your group survive if no one is at the helm for that period of time or not at all?  Granted, more than likely if your dead, you really won&#039;t care about your group, but so many of us have poured our heart and souls into these groups, especially if they are some sort of support group, that they should not end just because you are no longer involved.

There is no doubt that the picking of a co-owner is not easy, and there is always risk when involving others (especially if you have a very strong personality), but can your group really afford to not have such a cheap insurance policy to insure that it will continue on with out you?

The group that I was co-owner of, was started by a man who was in fair health.  Within a 3 month time frame, he went from fair health to passing away.  In that period of time, he had appointed a co-owner as well as a new moderator (me) as the group was growing rapidly. Upon his death, his co-owner took over, and asked if I would take on the responsibility and then appointed me as her co-owner.  As I said in my post above, we worked out a 51 - 49% ownership agreement (actually my idea as she wanted a 50/50 deal at first), and although we &quot;locked horns&quot; more than once, we both kept the best interest of the support group as the main focus and more often than not, she eventually agreed with my point of view on an argued point.  When she took her leave of absence, I appointed a co-owner with the agreement that I was owner, the replacement was there &quot;just in case&quot; happened to me and the one on leave was to be appointed as owner again when she was ready and able.  

Please don&#039;t keep your head in the sand..  Life happens and if you want to insure that your group will continue on without you, take precautions NOW.  Hold regular meetings with your moderators and co-owner, get to really know them, talk on the phone now and then.. Take the input from everyone into consideration before making major decisions (really helps in making everyone feel they are important and making a difference in how the group is run AND helps instill a &#039;team&#039; feeling) even if you decide to go your own direction in the end.. Make decisions that involve the direction of your group with a lot of forethought. do this and your group will continue on even if you can&#039;t be there to guide it on it&#039;s journey.

Just some things to think about...

Ez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a bit of good information here.. I especially like the idea of double ID&#8217;s for each owner/moderator.  In the group I was talking about in the above post, all but one of us had at least 2 ID&#8217;s on file.</p>
<p>But, the one point that I see many of you missing is &#8211; what the heck are you going to do if you wind up in a car accident and are laid up for 6 months or a year?  How about the death of a child or spouse and you NEED an extended break?  Or worse yet, your hit by a bus and killed&#8230; Can your group survive if no one is at the helm for that period of time or not at all?  Granted, more than likely if your dead, you really won&#8217;t care about your group, but so many of us have poured our heart and souls into these groups, especially if they are some sort of support group, that they should not end just because you are no longer involved.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that the picking of a co-owner is not easy, and there is always risk when involving others (especially if you have a very strong personality), but can your group really afford to not have such a cheap insurance policy to insure that it will continue on with out you?</p>
<p>The group that I was co-owner of, was started by a man who was in fair health.  Within a 3 month time frame, he went from fair health to passing away.  In that period of time, he had appointed a co-owner as well as a new moderator (me) as the group was growing rapidly. Upon his death, his co-owner took over, and asked if I would take on the responsibility and then appointed me as her co-owner.  As I said in my post above, we worked out a 51 &#8211; 49% ownership agreement (actually my idea as she wanted a 50/50 deal at first), and although we &#8220;locked horns&#8221; more than once, we both kept the best interest of the support group as the main focus and more often than not, she eventually agreed with my point of view on an argued point.  When she took her leave of absence, I appointed a co-owner with the agreement that I was owner, the replacement was there &#8220;just in case&#8221; happened to me and the one on leave was to be appointed as owner again when she was ready and able.  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t keep your head in the sand..  Life happens and if you want to insure that your group will continue on without you, take precautions NOW.  Hold regular meetings with your moderators and co-owner, get to really know them, talk on the phone now and then.. Take the input from everyone into consideration before making major decisions (really helps in making everyone feel they are important and making a difference in how the group is run AND helps instill a &#8216;team&#8217; feeling) even if you decide to go your own direction in the end.. Make decisions that involve the direction of your group with a lot of forethought. do this and your group will continue on even if you can&#8217;t be there to guide it on it&#8217;s journey.</p>
<p>Just some things to think about&#8230;</p>
<p>Ez</p>
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		<title>By: Kayellen</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when a group is orphaned?  Can a moderator somehow be given the ownership so they can manage the group properly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when a group is orphaned?  Can a moderator somehow be given the ownership so they can manage the group properly?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Jazzy</title>
		<link>http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2008/01/17/moderator-tip-finding-and-appointing-a-co-owner/comment-page-1/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Jazzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I curently have myself as owner and 3 moderators. One moderators&#039; sole purpose is to keep communication going in the group by creating polls,creating questions for the group, or asking for opinions on certain topics. The other two, and myself concentrate on building membership and monitoring, photos, and other member related activities.
Ms. Jazzy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I curently have myself as owner and 3 moderators. One moderators&#8217; sole purpose is to keep communication going in the group by creating polls,creating questions for the group, or asking for opinions on certain topics. The other two, and myself concentrate on building membership and monitoring, photos, and other member related activities.<br />
Ms. Jazzy</p>
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